We consider an extension of a question of Erdos on the number of

-gons
in a set of

points in the plane. Relaxing the convexity restriction we
obtain results on 5-gons and 5-holes (empty 5-gons). In particular, we show a
direct relation between the number of non-convex 5-gons and the rectilinear
crossing number, provide an improved lower bound for the number of convex
5-holes any point set must contain, and prove that the number of general
5-holes is asymptotically maximized for point sets in convex position.